INTJ

Introverted, iNtuitive, Thinking, Judging

Profile by Sandra Krebs Hirsch and Jean Kummerow

INTJs are strong individualists who seek new angles or novel ways of looking at things. They enjoy coming to new understandings. They are insightful and mentally quick; however, this mental quickness may not always be outwardly apparent to others since they keep a great deal to themselves. They are very determined people who trust their vision of the possibilities, regardless of what others think. They may even be considered the most independent of all of the sixteen personality types. INTJs are at their best in quietly and firmly developing their ideas, theories, and principles.

Living

The independent and individualistic INTJ manner appears early in life. As children, INTJs are often inwardly focused on their thoughts of the way the world is or ought to be; they enjoy day dreaming. They can be quite stubborn when information relayed to them by authorities, such as parents and teachers, contradicts what they believe. They are sure of their own belief system. INTJs are compelled to establish their own rules, boundaries, standards, and style.

Often at an early age, INTJs make a commitment to furthering their education. The life of the mind is very important to them. Examples abound of INTJs from economically or intellectually impoverished circumstances setting goals for themselves to continue in education, often earning the highest degree possible. INTJ teenagers may be seen as serious and reserved young people who are labeled as bookworms by others. They set internal standards of achievement for themselves and often do well academically. Being sociable is a standard that they rarely think is worth their time and energy.

As adults, INTJs are focused on attaining their inner goals and standards. They set a particular course based on their theory of what ought to be. They work extremely diligently to accomplish what they feel is important. They enjoy what they do and see it as a challenge. They are not easily dissuaded and may regard others’ needs and wants as an impediment to attaining their objectives.

Learning and Working

INTJs learn best when they can design their won approach and when they are able to absorb themselves in an area that interests them. They tend to focus on systems, theories, and constructs relating to universal truths and principles. They prefer challenging teachers, ones who meet their standards. High grade-point averages and test scores tend to characterize INTJs, who like rigorous academic work. Learning needs to be a creative process. Rote memory can be dull and boring for the INTJ. INTJs are diligent in pursuing new ideas and thoughts, and they exert effort to master a given subject. This makes INTJs particularly adept in most school situations. Because of their resourcefulness, thirst for knowledge, and inner needs, INTJs tend to find ways of acquiring knowledge. They gravitate toward libraries, public lectures, courses, and other learners and teachers – sources that offer them information and direction.

At work, INTJs use their conceptual strengths to analyze situations and then develop models to understand and anticipate through relentlessly to reach their goals. They will continue on with their plans, even in the face of adversity and data that might suggest to other more practical types that their goals are no longer feasible. By nature, INTJs are independent individualists. They see their visions so clearly that they are often surprised when others do not see things the same way. INTJs are strong at critiquing and as a result tend to notice the negatives. To them, a job well done should be reward enough in itself. They may neglect to comment favorably on others’ contributions.

INTJs tend to seek occupations that allow them to change the status quo and to design models to express their vision creatively. They desire autonomy and room for growth. They prefer to work in a place in which the future can be planned and where they can work for change in an organized manner. Some occupations seem to be especially attractive to INTJs: computer systems analyst, electrical engineer, judge, lawyer, photographer, psychologist, research department manager, researcher, scientist, university instructor, and other occupations in which long-range vision is essential.

Loving

For INTJs, love means including someone in their vision of the world. INTJ men tend to be attracted to partners who enjoy living their lives with and outward vitality and zest. Perhaps it is to compensate for their internal, visionary focus that they often find partners who are more outgoing and may even run interference to help the INTJ deal with the day-to-day world. INTJ women, however, may seek someone more like themselves.

INTJs tend to have a model in mind of how their relationship ought to be. This is less a romantic vision than it is and idea that relates to how the relationship functions in a unique or special way. They tend to withhold their deep feelings and affections from the public and sometimes even from the object of their affections. They can be intensely loyal and caring, even though this is not always expressed in words. INTJs can be generous with their gifts if the gift fits their vision of what ought to be appreciated by their partner. When scorned, INTJs retreat to their own world and may share none of their feelings with others. They may assume that there is a right way for a relationship to end and look for that. They act on the outside as if nothing has happened to them when indeed much has. They may lash out with criticisms of their former loved ones. It may take them a while to recover.

INTJ Profile by David Keirsey

INTJs are the most self-confident of all types, having “self-power” awareness. Found in about 1 percent of the general population, the INTJs live in an introspective reality, focusing on possibilities, using thinking in the form of empirical logic, and preferring that events and people serve some positive use. Decisions come naturally to INTJs’ once a decision is made, INTJs are at rest. INTJs look to the future rather than the past, and a word which captures the essence of INTJs is builder-a builder of systems and the applier of theoretical models.

To INTJs authority based on position, rank, title, or publication has absolutely no force. This type is not likely to succumb to the magic of slogans, watchwords, or shibboleths. If an idea or position makes sense to an INTJ, it will be adopted, if it doesn’t, it won’t, regardless of who took the position or generated the idea. As with the INTP, authority per se does not impress the INTJ.

INTJs do, however, tend to conform to rules if they are useful, not because they believe in them, or because they make sense, but because of their unique view of reality. They are the supreme pragmatists, who see reality as something which is quite arbitrary and made up. Thus it can be used as a tool-or ignored. Reality is quite malleable and can be changed, conquered, or brought to heel. Reality is a crucible for the refining of ideas, and in this sense, INTJs are the most theoretical of all the types. Where an ESTP sees ideas as the pawn of reality, an INTJ sees reality as the pawn of ideas: No idea is too far-fetched to be entertained. INTJs are natural brainstormers, always open to new concepts and, in fact, aggressively seeking them.

INTJs manipulate the world of theory as if on a gigantic chess board, always seeking strategies and tactics that have high payoff. In their penchant for logic, the INTJs resemble the INTPs. The logic of an INTJ, however, is not confined to the expressible logical. Unlike INTPs, INTJs need only to have a vague, intuitive impression of the unexpressed logic of a system to continue surely on their way. Things need only seem logical; this is entirely sufficient. Moreover, they always have a keen eye for the consequence of the application of new ideas or positions. They can be quite ruthless in the implementation of systems, seldom counting personal cost in terms of time and energy. Theories which cannot be made to work are quickly discarded by the INTJs.

To understand INTJs, their way of dealing with ideas should be observed closely. Their conscious thought is extraverted and empirical. Hence, they are better at generalizing, classifying, summarizing, adducing evidence, proving, and demonstrating than are the INTPs. The INTJs are somewhat less at home with pure reason, that is, systemic logic, where principles are explicit. In this respect they resemble the ENTJs. The INTJs, rather than using deductive logic, use their intuition to grasp coherence.

Career

INTJs can be very single-minded at times; this can be either a weakness or a strength in their careers, for they can ignore the points of view and wishes of others. INTJs usually rise to positions of responsibility, for they work long and hard and are steady in their pursuit of goals, sparing neither time nor effort on their part or that of their colleagues and employees. INTJs live to see systems translated into substance; an INTP, by way of contrast, is content to design the system. In both these types, however, coherence is the master. Both internal and external consistency are important, and if an INTJ finds that he or she is in a working situation where overlapping functions, duplication of effort, inefficient paper flow, and waste of human and material resources abound, the INTJ cannot rest until an effort is made to correct the situation.

Cost-effectiveness is a concept which has a strong imperative for INTJs, who frequently select occupations in engineering, particularly human engineering. They also can be found in the physical sciences, in roles which require development, such as curriculum building, and, in general, any job which requires the creation and application of technology to complex areas.

Fellow workers of INTJs often feel as if the INTJ can see right through them, and often believe that the INTJ finds them wanting. This tendency of people to feel transparent in the presence of the INTJ often result in relationships which have psychological distance. Thus colleagues find the INTJ apparently unemotional and, at times, cold and dispassionate. Because of their tendency to drive others as hard as they do themselves, INTJs often seem demanding and difficult to satisfy. INTJs are high achievers in school and on the job. On the job, they take the goals of an institution seriously and continually strive to respond to these goals. They make dedicated, loyal employees whose loyalties are directed toward the system, rather than toward individuals within the system. So as the people of an institution come and go, the INTJs have little difficulty-unlike the NFs, who have their loyalties involved more with persons than offices. INTJs tend, ordinarily, to verbalize the positive and eschew comments of a negative nature; they are more interested in moving an institution forward than commiserating about mistakes of the past.

Home

As mates, INTJs want harmony and order in the home and in relationships. They are the most independent of all types. They will trust their intuitions about others when making choices of friends and mates, even in the face of contradictory evidence and pressures applied by others. The emotions of an INTJ are hard to read, and neither male nor female INTJ is apt to express emotional reactions. At times, both will seem cold, reserved, and unresponsive, while in fact INTJs are almost hypersensitive to signals of rejection from those for whom they care. In social situations, INTJs may also be unresponsive and may neglect to observe small rituals designed to put others at their ease. For example, INTJs may communicate that time is wasted if used for idle dialogue, and thus people receive a sense of hurry from an INTJ which is not always intended. In their interpersonal relationships, INTJs are usually better in a working situation than in recreational situations. They do not enjoy physical contact except with a chosen few.

As parents, INTJs are dedicated and single minded in their devotion: Their children are a major focus in life. They are supportive of their children and tend to allow them to develop in directions of their own choosing. INTJs usually are firm and consistent in their discipline and rarely care to repeat directions given to children…or others. Being the most independent of all the types, they have a strong need for autonomy; indifference or criticism from people in general does not particularly bother INTJs, if they believe that they are right. They also have a strong need for privacy.

The most important preference of an INTJ is intuition, but this is seldom seen. Rather, the function of thinking is used to deal with the world and with people. INTJs are vulnerable in the emotional area and may make serious mistakes here.

Midlife

At midlife the feeling side of personality should be given much attention by the INTJ, who can work at expanding his or her abilities to respond to wishes and feelings of others. They may also do well to turn more attention to the sensory side of their natures, attempting to get in touch with the joys of good food, good beverages, social rituals, kinesthetic experiences…and play. The “wasting” of time in play is an appropriate target as a midlife task for INTJs who can take lessons from an SP, especially an ESP, in the art of enjoying the pleasures of life.

Mates

Wishing to control nature, the INTJ “scientist” probably has more difficulty than all other types in making up his or her mind in mate selection. Even mate selection must be done in a scientific way. It may well be that the narratives, plays, and films impugning the “rational and objective” approach to mating have as their target our thorough-going scientist INTJ. Nevertheless, when young, the INTJ is attracted to the free-wheeling, spontaneous, fun-loving “entertainer” ESFP.

But the INTJ requires that mating meet certain criteria, else it is not undertaken. So the INTJ doesn’t often go through with what is begun by natural attraction. Since he or she proceeds in a rational and methodical way, the selection of a similar temperament is more likely than selection of opposite, following the assumption that those who are similar ought to do well together. The INTJ “scientist” is also attracted to the ENFP “journalist,” probably because of the enthusiastic, effervescent, and apparently spontaneous enjoyment and wonderment this type exudes-the very antitheses of the careful, thoughtful exactitude of the INTJ.

INTJ Ability and Job Satisfaction Characteristics!

You are INTJ, Introverted with Intuition, Thinking and Judging, with INTJ ability, or you are interested in someone who is, and you are perhaps seeking information regarding how the INTJ personality type and associated INTJ ability gleaned from the Myers Briggs Test can perform optimally and at their very best in the workplace. You may also be seeking information as to how INTJ ability can be maximally used in the workplace and how all this knowledge of INTJ ability can increase workplace motivation and job satisfaction for you, and your organization.

You can also learn how knowledge of INTJ strengths and weaknesses in the workplace, that is INTJ ability, can insure that the INTJ will not fall victim to job dissatisfaction which has been termed “Falsification of Type” and which is the core reason an estimated 70% of all the workers in the world dislike (or hate) their jobs!

INTJ Workplace Strengths

INTJ ability and strengths are many and would mean for you in the workplace that you:

  • are someone who reaches understanding by contemplating and thinking, pondering things, someone who wants to really think about it
  • are reflective, quiet, and prone to consider before acting
  • prefer physical work space which allows for privacy and concentration
  • participate and speak up after observing and formulating your own impressions and questions; may need to be asked what you think or feel
  • regard meeting as taking time away from work and as places where more work gets generated or assigned
  • are aware of internal guiding principles, philosophy, and commitments
  • focus first on and are most interested in the big picture, global issues, future possibilities; you notice the “forest” before noticing the “trees”
  • are speculative and work toward “what if”
  • work in bursts, await inspiration, may skip around, pursuing what “strikes your fancy;” may work on several things at the same time
  • want a team to have an engaging vision and mission; initiate and enjoy consideration of possibilities or theoretical matters
  • arouse energy and zeal, especially for pursuing the mission and for innovations
  • may seem distant and/or unapproachable; are direct, sometimes at the cost of being insensitive to others
  • focus on the work at hand; don’t allocate much time to get to know others and build relationships
  • are naturally critical of ideas and proposals; identify deficiencies in ideas and plans, and impediments to achieving goals
  • believe that what is accomplished is more important than how a group works together; expect the best ideas and solutions to emerge from argument and debate; enjoy give and take
  • analyze impersonally; are able to step back and be impartial
  • champion sticking to the principles
  • are dependable, deliberate, decisive, and focused; stick to commitments, plans, and schedules
  • are methodical and systematic, and often develop routine approaches to work

Basically those jobs/careers that would allow the INTJ to use the strengths listed above, INTJ ability, as a natural part of doing the job would be the jobs/careers providing maximum workplace motivation for the INTJ. With increased workplace motivation normally follows increased job satisfaction. Likewise, jobs/careers not allowing the INTJ ability to be used will provide much less workplace motivation and consequently much less job satisfaction for the INTJ personality type.

INTJ Workplace Weaknesses

INTJ personality and INTJ ability would include a tendency toward the following workplace weaknesses:

  • may need to be asked what you think or feel
  • may view meetings as naturally negative events that cause more work than is accomplished by having them
  • will have difficulty seeing the big picture
  • may have difficulty focusing on one thing for great amounts of time
  • want the work of a team to be engaging vision and the mission may have trouble being realistic, practical and in-the-moment for too long
  • will be uncomfortable to troubled proceeding without plans
  • may hurt others by their natural ability to criticize
  • their natural impersonal approach to things may be seen as negative to workplace approachability/relationships

Now take a few moments and consider how INTJ’s behave and perform in the workplace from the following six aspects:

    • What Others Might Observe First
      • are serious and confident
      • are independent, may seem cool and impersonal and distant, and don’t communicate much
      • are inquisitive and skeptical, raise questions about everything, e.g., organizational mission, current goals, why we’ve been organized into teams
      • have ideas in mind so they propose solutions and give advice (and may be blunt in doing so)
      • are comfortable working alone and like to have their own work space
      • do their best work when they have a grasp of the big picture and the underlying principles, want to understand something mentally before trying it, and once they understand it may not necessarily be interested in implementation
      • function autonomously, often want and provide little feedback or supervision, and may take action without informing or consulting others
      • highly value competence in self and others, and like to continue to learn new things and to expand their capabilities
      • are not naturally drawn to teams and may appear uninvolved or uncommitted
      • boil much of the group’s discussion and deliberation down to essential points or issues
      • are intellectually playful, but otherwise earnest
      • may not value or be comfortable with the relationship-building aspects of working together (e.g., “small talk,” creating a warm environment)
      • project calm and often provide a stabilizing influence
      • see change as a means to improve, to address weaknesses and problems in systems, or to achieve specific organizational outcomes; may be less enthusiastic about personal change
      • are not particularly responsive to-and may deliberately resist-external pressures, e.g., “This is the latest approach” or “All the other departments are doing it”
      • want to know “why,” and take a rational, systematic approach to change, even to the human factors involved
      • want to analyze all components, including “irrational” aspects to look for patterns or cause and effect relationships
      • may avoid or withdraw unless the conflict is an obstacle to accomplishing something important to them
      • sometimes cause conflict without being aware that they are, e.g., may spark discussions and arguments that others experience as conflict, may offer suggestions for improvement that others take as personal criticisms
      • under stress, may feel immobilized, have irrational/emotional reactions, or give sudden priority to seemingly insignificant activities or events
      • generate and promote “vision,” and take a long-range view of the consequences of today’s deliberations
      • able to see things from a new perspective, providing original ideas or insights and synthesizing complex information or diverse perspectives
      • drive and readiness to create and improve systems
      • advocate focusing energy and resources on activities central to accomplishing the mission
      • preserving and determined and sometimes as so confident their position is right that they stubbornly hang on to ideas and visions too long
      • competent and self-assured and sometimes as seeming to regard themselves as superior to others
      • naturally providing relatively little information, presuming that what is perfectly clear to them is also clear to others
      • having demanding standards, and sometimes as being critical of others (as well as themselves) when those standards aren’t met

The Myers Briggs Test can be looked upon sometimes as an ability and personality test. Once you have identified your personality type via the Myers Briggs Test and have some understanding of the associated strengths, weaknesses, abilities and behaviors of your type you can better determine the kind of work environment and associated factors that provide the maximum workplace motivation and job satisfaction for you. Again, view the results of the Myers Briggs Test concerning work as a kind of ability and personality test.

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INTJ Personality

INTJ personality is strategic in their thinking always working on system improvement, competent, insightful, living in the world of ideas, conceptualists just to name a few of the INTJ factors that comprise your list of personality traits you can use to find a career that is a natural fit.

Introverted with Intuition, Thinking and Judging your career personality profile would include the following natural tendencies:

  • Grasp of possibilities
  • Depth of concentration
  • Use of logic and analysis
  • Ability to organize
  • Strong task orientation
  • Powers of abstraction
  • Perseverance
  • Willingness to view situations/systems in creative ways

There are more natural traits making up your self personality profile but those above indicate a natural ability for careers found in academic, scientific, theoretical, and technical positions that require prolonged periods of solitary concentration and tough-minded analysis.

Some Famous INTJs can be found here: http://www.celebritytypes.com/intj.php

The INTJ and work

The INTJ personality type will move naturally towards careers that allow you to create and develop original and innovative solutions to problems to improve existing systems; work that allows you to focus your energy on the implementation of your good ideas, working in a logical and orderly way, and in a setting that rewards your perseverance and does not require the repetitive execution of factual and detail-oriented tasks. Examples of careers often chosen by your type as a career personality profile fit include:

Architect
Attorney: Administration
Computer Professional*
Lawyer: Practicing
Federal Manager
Management Consultant
Human Resources Manager
Chemistry Scientist
Research Worker
Social Services Worker
Electrical Engineer
Physical Scientist*
Computer Systems Analyst & Programming*
Judge
Photographer*
Chemical Engineer
Corporate Manager
University Professor
Psychologist
Social Scientist
Electrical Technician
Actor or Entertainer*
Sales Manager
Artist
Auditor
Musician or Composer
Biology Scientist
School Principal
College Administration*
Writer*
Physician: Pathology
Credit Investigator
Editor*
Student Personnel Administration
Engineer: All Catagories
Health Teacher
Employment Development Specialist
Physician: All Specialties
Research Assistant
Aeronautical Engineer
Education Consultant
Govt. Manager
Designer*
Nursing Educator
Dentist
Fine Artist
Community College Teacher
Rabbi
General Administration
Military Officer or Enlistee*

*all of the bolded careers are ones I have done in the past, so I am very close to the INTJ work-style.

Your type is less often found in and attracted by work characterized by a great deal of nurturing work, relationship-oriented work, or work that requires practical, routinized production or delivery of services such as:

Food Service Worker
Cleaning Service Worker
Storekeeper
Receptionist
cashier
Teacher Aide
Corrections Officer
Nursing Aide
Physical therapist
School Bus Driver
Police Officer
Typist
Purchasing Agent
Medical Assistant
Speech Pathology
Electrician
Construction Worker
Health Service Worker
Foreign Language Teacher
Junior & High School Teacher

66 responses to “INTJ

  1. Thank you Seshadri. Before I took the Myers Briggs exam, I would have told you it wasn’t possible for a test to tell anything about me. After I took the test, I was amazed at its accuracy in predicting general things about me. After 20 years, I am still amazed at its accuracy. The jobs that are bolded near the end of the document are all the types of jobs that I have held and have enjoyed the most. Still working for me.

    Namaste.

    • Some of SoundEagle’s past and present professions are included in the list too. Regarding its accuracy, it is such a long and inclusive list that it is bound to generate a lot of “fits” or “hits” by virtue of its broad coverage.

  2. I am an INTJ. In addition to our normal blunt personality type, I have spent the last decade playing military. My step dad was in the Marines as a young man and he had to point out to me that a lot of people found me intimidating. I was clueless until he told me this. To me, everyone has thin skin. I am going to college now and I try not to scare the fresh out of high school kids, me being a 31 year old combat veteran, INTJ, with an extra twisted sense of humor. I have noticed being such an oddity in this sense gets me a lot of welcoming female attention and brings me a lot of negative male attention. I have a hard time making male friends because they are envious of how at ease and playful I am with women. They buy into the hollywood garbage and I celebrate the art of manliness. When I was in High School I blended in, in the Air Force I blended in. Its weird for me now to stand out. I am trying to embrace, and improve, on leadership qualities; If for no other reason than it can lead to higher paying jobs that give me more power to remove the inefficiencies that I loathe so much! Also it would get me closer to taking everything over and instilling my own concept of a new world order, whether people wanted it or not. Its for their own good really. LMFAO. The nicest thing I have been called is “opinionated”. I am never loved by the group, but always grudgingly respected. I confuse other males who covet the leadership position. Whenever they make a show of authority, they can’t help but look at me to see if I am going to blow them out of the water in front of everyone else. They can not figure out why I am not after social power when I certainly appear to posses the charisma to seemingly take power at will. I get my will done better, behind the curtain, and have very little ego to feed externally.

    • “The inner strength is sensed by others and most feel threatened and envious. The hate on us and in our immature state we often get pulled down to their negative levels. This can lead to a superiority complex in self defense.”

      I was definitely more willing to lead when I was younger, but after a few too many instances of criticism I took on this weird “wounded warrior” role (opposite of a superiority complex). Frankly, I’m fed up with it and have been trying to rise back up to my natural place in life. My inner dialogue has a tremendous impact on whether or not I decide to lead though and that’s something I’ve been working on lately. I’ll read up on transformational leadership. Maybe it could be helpful. :)

  3. I wonder if any of the INTJ’s feel odd in the US because of the extremely extroverted culture here? I am an INTJ and after a few years, I still feel my scale of values is totally opposite to the normal in this culture. Where people love joining in groups and meetings and social events with plenty of people, I as an INTJ prefer more meaningful gatherings with closer (and less) people. Where people love presentations and groupwork, and the feeling types who like to be around more people are the most highly regarded. It gets to the point where you want them to shut up if what they are going to say is absurd-useless garbage. However, there seems to be almost no way to meet people meaningfully (outside this socially imposed culture) Thanks for the information, it is very interesting.

    • I absolutely feel this way and have trouble convincing my friends that I am “normal”. One of my good friends is extremely extroverted/feeling. It’s nice to be one on one with her, because are POV on anything is always so dichotomous and the conversations remain interesting, but I can hardly stand to be around a group of EF’s. All I hear is a punch of pointless self-promoting and shallow observations about meaningless garbage!!

    • i don’t live in the US, but my sister went there once and told me about it, and i feel that if i lived there, i wouldn’t fit in properly with the society and culture, because it seems like everyone is extremely social and outgoing, not to mention really talkative. it would really get on my nerves, something that doesn’t usually happen, because i don’t get angry easily.
      :) but i love being myself, and i don’t care what people think. i’m starting to suspect that the people around me are jealous…

      i’m an INTJ. perfect.
      i’m not being sarcastic, i love being myself!

  4. Interesting read and very accurate profile of an INTJ.

    Sethr1, I had to chuckle when reading the section of your post regarding being “grudgingly respected” as that has been told to me as well. Enjoyable read & thanks for sharing.

    Perhaps my warped sense of humor coming out, but I find it very amusing when someone is intent on proving me wrong, all the while, basically talking out their hind quarters with illogical arguments to prove their point, and seeing their faces when the reality of their losing battle has set in. Cracks me up every time. :)

    • Lady b, I also win every argument with people because I argue outside my narrow sense of self when they cannot. To the poster above lady b, I do believe american society is contrary to our societal way of thinking, as I have been to 16 different countries and found some of the less cut throat ones, with tighter nit families, absolutely serene. Make no mistake, our gene pool here in america consists of people who flipped off the people back in their native countries who said they were nuts to leave home. To a degree, our country has a disproportionally high number of stubborn bastards. It is what won the west, it is why a 236 year old (baby) country is the worlds most dominant and militaristic society this world has ever seen. The high levels of dominance genes are why our economic system we export worldwide is very “survival of the fittest”. Also why we are the only first world nation where the leaders have been largely unsuccessful in taking away firearms. The U.S., the middle east, africa and a few other random 3rd world asian. countries are the only places that are armed to the teeth still

      • I also am never at a loss to make a couple more points. I would also recommend googling up a list of countries that still execute people. America, saudi arabia, north korea. Embarrassing company to keep. Advice to other INTJ’s, I have a type theory on us and I would love some feedback. I believe that the rare intj (1-2%), four times more uncommon, but never the less present in women as well….is natures model of the “natural born leader ” type. Whether the full potential is ever realized by the individual will vary. “Some seek leadership, others have it thrust upon them”. We are the thrust upon us type. I believe in, an inverse law of sanity. I believe that in this “sane” world we are insane. At times society becomes “insane”, the insane man becomes the sane man and. vice versa. People know on an intuitive level that an intj is down right independent, and would be least bothered of types during a total society collapse. The inner strength is sensed by others and most feel threatened and envious. The hate on us and in our immature state we often get pulled down to their negative levels. This can lead to a superiority complex in self defense. This drives insecure people nuts and perpetuates a cycle. We were blessed with our leadership qualities and should be the bigger people. Learn to lead by example, its the only true form of leadership. Remember that they Envy your gifts. Attacks on the social “alpha”, are always constant. If the reasonable intj does not seek to fill the leadership role, someone else who wants to glorify themselves, will fill the vacuum. Google transformational leadership, for guidance on the only way leadership can truly happen. Everything else is a system of worshipping the “leader”. A true leader sees the best course for the tribe by being humble. Leadership is not glory, leadership is an exercise in self sacrifice, time and time again. It neither seeks or willing accepts compliments. This would reduce humility and cloud judgment, endangering group survival. You will never be known for the disasters you prevent. Why be a leader then? Because the very minority of evil is done by bad people. The majority by regular people with good intentions. All it takes for evil to transpire, is for good people to not stand up. They know not what they do, an intj does.

  5. thanks for your comments, very insightful. specifically ..
    “A true leader sees the best course for the tribe by being humble. Leadership is not glory, leadership is an exercise in self sacrifice, time and time again. It neither seeks or willing accepts compliments. This would reduce humility and cloud judgment, endangering group survival.”
    that is how I see it too.

  6. Hello there! I loved this blogpost! Ever since discovering that I’m an INTJ myself and the beauty of the MBTI, I’ve been on a never ending quest to learn more and more about myself. This article was really insightful! I mentioned in my blog! (Don’t worry I gave you credits plus a link to here.) Anyways, good job! :)

  7. I took the Myers-Briggs test for the first time yesterday and came up an INTJ. Reading this description was uncanny. I’ve been married for 25 years to a woman that perfectly fits “…enjoy[s] living their lives with and outward vitality and zest. Perhaps it is to compensate for their internal, visionary focus that they often find partners who are more outgoing and may even run interference to help the INTJ deal with the day-to-day world.” I’ve enjoyed a career as an engineer, military enlistee and officer, and I enjoy acting (as a hobby).

    I don’t see anything on here about risk-aversion or conflict-avoidance, which is me…but “autonomy” definitely resonates!

    Thanks for all the great info!

  8. I’m one of those extremely rare female INTJ’s ..I am amazed at the accuracy of this test. I have to giggle a bit as I read the characteristics of the INTJ …good and bad. My whole life people have called me “Stuck up” ” Unapproachable” ” Hard to read” …I think I will print this up and title it “Lyn’s Operational Manuel” …meanwhile, I have more studying to do.

  9. I also just discovered that I am an INTJ female, and I feel like my eyes have really been opened. I have discovered that a LARGE part of the way I act in society is to fit in with societal norms and to exhibit what is considered acceptable from women. If people knew how often “this shit is a pointless waste of time” was the thought behind a particular action or comment, I wonder what they would think? I am often floored by the absolute inefficiency of women’s actions, and how they cannot readily see how individual actions can negatively impact the big picture of what they are trying to accomplish. To me, it’s written in 50 foot letters. And the amount of time and effort it takes to make them see this without hurting their feelings grates on me. But I have become very good at slowly and carefully directing people to see things my way (aka the right way) without letting them know they are being guided. Being an INTJ female means you become the consummate “actress.” And while I have worked in managerial roles in the past, I feel most comfortable being the person supporting the leader. “What boss? You have an idea? O.k., now get out of the way and let me figure out how to make it work.” Bosses love me. Even in secretarial roles, I often heard, “So and so is the boss, but we know who REALLY runs the office.” (That would be me.) Can you imagine how my life would be if I openly expressed what I was really thinking? I really envy INTJ men. It is so much more acceptable for you to be yourself, I think. And I am in no way a “masculine” type female. I prefer dresses and make-up and enjoy many activities that women prefer. I just don’t like doing anything that is a waste of time. Wow! Reading back over this, I can tell I have a lot of repressed “annoyance.” Nice to have a forum where I can be honest.

  10. Recently learned I am an INTJ female (INTJ part, always known I’m female). I’ve often wondered why I eventually assume the authority position at any job I accepted. Agree with Barbara (previous post) that so many people seem unbelievably thick, esp. women. So happy I found a mate that appreciates me for who/what I am, sounds like I’ve been lucky there.

    • Have to comment on sethr1 comment about INTJs being “least bothered of types during a total society collapse.” I’m fairly certain I would be fine and let the “proles” fall where they may. Not very PC but really not my problem. Sorry if anyone takes this as a hatred of human culture because it’s not, I just think that if you’re not prepared for everything you shouldn’t be surprised when you fail, i.e. the ant and the grasshopper.

      • I agree with you whole-heartedly, fellow INTJ. Just make the best possible opportunity, regardless of politics or apocalypse.

    • Hi, I feel for you, I’ve recently found out I’m INTJ and been wondering why life as a stay at home mom wasn’t working out for me. I also took on childminding on top of my SAHM duties to earn a few extra pennies…. Needless to say this drove me to the edge of insanity. People often assumed I was the perfect “earth mother” because on the outside I seemed organised and together and surely must be loving this type of life (otherwise why wasn’t I making use of my degree). But I’m going to stop taking these “challenges” to be something I’m not. Meanwhile my husband’s career has gone from strength to strength, helped by the fact he has no worries about organising anything to do with our kids or home.
      I wish I’d done the MB test earlier, but will put this new knowledge to good use. You’re not the only one changing careers!

    • I completly agree that we INTJ’s do not do well in service oriented careers, we find the empathy and emotion and all the social aspects are an annoying waste of time. I however and in an odd sort of spot when it comes to that. I ma female INTJ who LOVES animals, it is my passion and calling, I am a Veterinary Technician. I hate people and every pet comes with an owner, Very rarely will I connect with someone. my point is, as far as the actual nursing of the animals it is a very emotional and service oriented job, You would think that I would hate it but it’s heaven for me, I love nothing more than to tend to, nurture, care for, cuddle and love the animals. I am sensitive, empathetic, and very emotional, I get very attached. So interesting to me. I hate children too, I am so nurturing in one area and so INTJ in all others. strange.

      • Hi Brittney, Do you put many animals down? I did and it began to wear on me so I had to take a different job. Caring for animals was cool and learning a lot about science was fun, but I found myself day dreaming as we tend to do when we have figured it all out and our mind needs more.

        I’m glad you are having a good time being a tech, but it would not hurt you to consider other options that could keep your mind busy and creating fantastic changes in the world.

  11. I am a female INTJ and I am only 13. I find it very difficult to fit in blend or even enjoy most events or activities. It’s difficult for me to be included in many classes because of the people who don’t understand and happen to take up half the time in class when the subject seems easy understood and boring to me. I think a main factor of it is because of the fact I live in america anyways I have a question for all you adult INTJs. Does it get any easier after Jr. high and high school? (to fit in and not be bugged by the difficult people in life ect)

    • Fitting in is a matter of adaptation. Either you learn to imitate and blend in with the people around you or you will have to decide that standing out and being yourself is worth more to you than their interactions. Both come with a price tag, so it is a matter of what makes YOU happiest, being accepted or being yourself. (My advice? Be yourself. You have to live with you over the long haul. If you get in the habit of attempting to fit into what other people deem important, you never stop and I assure you in the long run it won’t make you really happy, especially if you are an INTJ.)

      • That’s not necessarily true, adapting doesn’t mean changing WHO you are, but rather knowing WHAT will and wouldn’t work in certain situations.

        For example, if asked a question that may offend when answered directly. With INTJ’s you can be direct without the INTJ taking it personal for the most part. With Feeling types they tend to view any sort of criticism as an attack. So when you speak to feeling types simply inform them that you don’t think they can handle what you have to say and you would rather move on to avoid any unnecessary conflict. You aren’t changing who you are, just the way of approach.

        I’m an INTJ with many acquaintances, but very picky on who I choose to bring into my micro-sized inner-circle. Not because I have a hard-time fitting in I’m always invited to parties, events, etc. but because I rarely find anyone I feel connected with on a high level and share similar values (Brutal Honesty, Loyalty, etc.). I prefer quality friends that actually live up to the title over diluting the definition of a “friend” by giving a bunch of acquaintances a meaningless title.

        Of course being yourself is always the best choice for happiness, I just disagree with part that implies adapting= imitation. That’s a HUGE misconception. A wolf doesn’t have to turn into a sheep to catch one, it just has to study it’s actions and know how and when to react.

        Adapting= Knowing how to apply what you’ve learned.

    • Well, I can feel some empathy towards you because I found myself in the same situation and I still do. When I was in high school I did not blend in any group not even those called “nerds ” or “geeks “. I used to spend time with them but they always thought I was “weird ” how the teenagers refer to those which do not follow their social norms. Therefore, I would spend moat of my time alone or choosing to be alone. I suffer from depressions due to family and relationship situations. And the truth was all of that depression regarding relationships was to fit in. Now that I look back upon those year I think about how if I didn’t care about that I would be.
      doing better today. I am 21 years old going to college for biochemistry and neuroscience, and at the end of the road you don’t take those people with you. The real treasure you have ia your curiosity and knowledge. If you don’t enjoy something well, find something else. I enjoy a book better than talking to an attractive guy or than drinking with friends. You are the.person you are don’t try to change because you feel you wont belong . Some of the greatest never did. Study hard, don’t listen to ignorance, challenge yourself with complex subjects and go to university there you will find your calling I can almost assure you. I am an INTJ as well.

      • I just wanted to ask you what college you go to? I am 13 Years old and those are the exact courses i have wanted to take and would love some information.

    • Welcome to INTJ, young Paige! I am an adult woman who thrives as an INTJ. I grew up in a small town and never fit in and wondered why it was so difficult to blend in. I felt stifled and isolated. Everyone talked to hear themselves talk. I could never be me and when I was I was seen as bossy. After highschool I went to a major university and received a degree in Electrical Engineering. I have now worked at a major automotive company as an engineer for 20 years working on special projects. My current bosses love me because I think for myself, deliver results, and don’t create any hassle for them. When I was younger I had a much more abrasive and blunt manner but have learned to moderate it when I need to. Every personality type has to learn to control their behavior, not just us, in order for us all to get along. It is not a weakness to tone down the superiority complex once in a while for the greater good. One thing I do socially every once in a while is throw theme parties. I love to plan and decorate (well, my extrovert friend does the most creative stuff), many times over the top. But the parties aren’t for pure social interaction. They are usually scheduled with games and murder mysteries, etc. Anything to fill the space so I don’t have to chit chat. Mostly I stay home and listen to classical music. I am very happily married to an INFP. I keep very few friends, but the ones I keep are very special to me and I am very loyal to them. Strangely, they are all very confident extroverts. They are confident enough in themselves that they let me be me, the real me, the one that says abrasive and crazy things. I am lucky to work in a place with so many employees so there is a greater chance of finding friends that accept me. It does get easier as you get older and more comfortable in your skin. You’ll find your niche in life if you make good decisions and don’t give up in being the best you can be. Good luck!

    • I too am I 13 year old INTJ i just took the myers briggs test after my step father had told me about the 16 personalities. I find it very difficult to fit in and blend. even when I do I find it difficult for me to stay interested. They tend to talk about boring drama and unimportant information. There is only one class I work well in: science. Whenever we do group labs I am often accepted as the leader for that are aware i am very efficient when dealing with things of this matter. They also don’t care about what school they will go to after that graduate. That is one of the most annoying parts, They are too fed up with drama to focus on their future. This post has opened my eyes and using this I may be able to establish a foreground with other students by appearing to suppress these INTJ traits. I have a few questions though, did you adult INTJs have similar school experiences? does it get easier as you get older?

      • It really kinda depends Chloe. For the most part we like our Independence but also like making our opinions known. We like to be in a position to make change while not actually having much responsibilities, as we value that freedom. I for one went into politics and government work but we are all so different. I particularity went into government work because it’s both stable and i can enact some change. Mostly that’s it long term job and financial security. But Our nature is that we really love and specialize in a particular field…..but were always open to change and learning new things. Plus we kinda love knowledge and are informed of every other angle. Your still young yet, Chloe but planning never hurt anybody. College will help sort out what you find pinpoint better when you take general education classes. i think you already have a general idea of what you like and your strengths and weaknesses. You like science because A leads to B and at the end of the day we INTJ loves tangible results as we love goals accomplished. One thing you could study and like that is Science and Social relations ( because we do love to analyze people and people watching) is Cognitive Neuroscience. I for one also graduated with a major in Psychology. As for the social stuff that will come in time but i recommend joining clubs in College as your more then likely to find like minded people and friends with people that share your own interest. Also eventually…trust me you’ll be running that club within a year.

  12. Funny I work as a Medical Assistant and I really love my job.. and it says here that its something that I should avoid…

    • I take it they could mean just that although you enjoy it … you’d rather be running it. In fact, I could guess you are the one “actually” in charge of the office and are the bosses go-to-person or right hand there. I think it’s more are need to constantly improve things and being in the middle management portion of things (with unyielding rules and inefficiency) would drive us nuts. Yet, again something tells me you have the freedom to fix it where ever your at.

  13. LMAO just took the test and wow so dead on. I used to always tell others I don’t mind being number two and being the “shadow power”. this is why I always liked VP roles as, although the President gets all the glory…. he also gets all the blame (and usually his head chopped off). Also I’m to damn rational about everything. Love, work, play. everything must be efficient and maximized. My plans are always organized but flexible because emergencies happen and you always should have contingencies. The quotes “Better safe then sorry” or, “this is crap is pointless” are my watchwords. We all also do have a very blunt and very sarcastic wit about us. For the most part I would say I have very thick skin but also hate all the touchy-feely PDA that people do in public. LMAO that further info says were the most rare and are “masterminds” and “strategists”. Must be why I like Strategy games so much too. Also just for my inquiring mind…..How may of you guys and gals are also Gemini’s. I have an odd theory if not were one of 3 other horoscopes.

    • Do you honestly believe that the position of planets and stars at the date and time you were born has any influence on your personality, or any human affairs at all, here on earth? I see absolutely no correlation between horoscopes (which is a complete waste of time) and MBTI types (which is actually based on observation and research), or any other aspect of ones personality for that matter. Horoscopes and astrology has absolutely no intellectual credibility and are always written in a manner which can appeal to everyone, regardless of their actual sign. Hopefully that debunked your theory.

      On a different note, I do agree with most of the other reflections you made. INTJs are similar in that way :P

    • Funny… I ditched work today (asked off) for a mental break because leadership are acting like idiots and poking their nose in my special side projects! Lmao… It’s true to me that although I have brought great PR to the institution I work for, I could care less. All I value is autonomy and the ability to create and promote programs that are beneficial and have purpose.
      And yes…as a female, people find me abrasive because I have no time for handholding and bonding. Thus would be much more acceptable if I were male. My daughter has similar traits, although extroverted, so I suggested she befriend trustworthy males (under supervision ;) ). I am truly INTJ and (for you above) Gemini.

    • It is quite astounding to notice that my fellow INTJs use the same words or expressions. It is just like reading my own mind. Amazing

  14. These comments are hilarious, and reading the characteristics of INTJ are so on the nose. I never before had the need to find out why I had these tendencies and how they affected my life, because as a kid, I was very independent, loved to read and was very content enjoying my own company. And I wasn’t expected to be outgoing. School was a breeze for me all the way through until some parts of college (group projects and such). And my adult life was contentedly solitary until I got married – to an emotional,extrovert. Being around others that required constant stimulation from another is so inconceivable to me and makes me tired thinking about it. I have been told that I come across as “stuck up”, a trial lawyer once told me he found me intimidating (I’m 5ft.2.). I thought he was nuts! My sister has told me that I do despise being told what to do. My friends are mostly male – I can’t stand the incessant, stupid chatter of most females. Small talk is a waste of time! Now I just need to translate these strengths into a job I will enjoy.

  15. OMG I feel SO happy and relieved after reading all the posts before me. (not typical for an INTJ to express feeling in such way, huh?) I literally googled out this forum, because I was trapped in another uncomfortable relationship with a girl (I’m female and I’m straight). This new friend I made find that I’m a freak because I didn’t like her and responded without enthusiasm to many of her “warm-hearted concerns”. She said I put up my defense and it hurt her tremendously, because when other people saw me being cool they would see her as a problem. She literally blames me for her failure of social life. We talked several times, and she simply could not understand. She said she had never met someone like me and my character will make me suffer from work. I don’t mind sharing some other ridiculous remarks here, like “You are too logical and rational to be a girl!” “Jennifer is not a normal girl, because she’s not interested in fashion(though I do have my style)”. Some even wanted me to consider whether I’m gay, saying “probably you don’t realize the fact yourself”… I was speechless.

    I’m a graduate student in the US, and I came from another country. I have heard of such negative feedback in my college too. The problem is, sometimes I cannot get rid of those people, because grad students are a small circle and we are in the same project group! The situation gets more complicated when she rumored about me to a third person, saying that I was treating her as a “threat”, and that I’m a terrible person! It’s so absurd, and the other people who were used to be fine with me started to think maybe I was a “terrible” person. It’s totally annoying and upsetting. I feel that I have been explaining myself to so many people as if I have to. I even started to doubt about myself, whether I was not tolerant enough or this secret sense of superiority is really not “morally correct or politically correct” or not patient enough, or I may need counselling and I am no longer certain who I am.
    And Maybe this also has to do with me being a foreign student. I was totally confident about my personality in college. Thought there were uncomfortable moments, I could deal with it, and sometimes just joke about it. However, lots of pressure build on me now, and I become lonely once or a while. INJTs need friends too.

    I don’t want any form of compromise anymore. I don’t want to hate the crowd, but I feel those stupid people have made suffer and when I finally come back to myself and realize that I have lots of more meaningful things left undone, I feel so guilty. I am in a business school right now, and will graduate soon. I feel that I may encounter similar situations in a business environment later. I will have to start from scratch of course, so I can’t really utilize any “strategic thinking” abilities at that point and for a long time. I wonder if anyone would give me some suggestions on how to survive better.

  16. My husband took this test and I followed along just to see what the results might be…turns out that we are both INTJs! I’m not sure what to think about it, but apparently we are in a “rare” category, me especially, as a female. This test was very useful to me as it validated so many thoughts and feelings that I’ve had most of my life, even as a child. I’ve always been a little different than others and rested strongly on my convictions and beliefs. Now I know why, and that knowledge explains a lot and actually makes me feel better!

    • I am also an INTJ and I do approach relationships in a “scientific”. I almost came to the conclusion that I should look for a female INTJ. How is it for an INTJ to live with a companion who share the same personality type?

  17. As a 20 year old female INTJ, it’s true that oftentimes people see me as aloof and distant. I admit that I don’t like socializing much because I have observed that most people around me can’t enjoy or appreciate intellectual discussions and they are more inclined to emotion-ladden talks. I often see most people in my place as shallow and freaking traditionalists (blame religious zealotry and cheap media in the Philippines) in which makes me hard to fit in the environment I am now. Most people label me as a lone wolf in most social and work situations (I have only few friends whose MBTI are: ENTJ, ISTJ and ISTP) and I oftentimes excel in individual projects (good that I am an engineering major). Anyway, it’s refreshing to know that my fellow INTJs are here though I haven’t met one IRL.

  18. So nice to hear from so many other INTJ women. As a child, I knew that I was different in a way. I just thought I thought like an adult (which was true for the most part). I saw all of the drama unfold around me but did not feel particularly affected by it. I made logical decisions as to which friendships were worth continuing and which ones ought to be let go. Now I’m in my twenties and about to embark on a career I love. This past year of university there have been innumerable group projects (I have 5 group projects due next week, each group containing 3-9 members). I have found that I must let group members do a little babbling around a topic before they’ll accept what I have to say when I sum up their point in 10 words or less. It takes so much TIME for everyone else to catch up. It’s worth doling out the social niceties though, as it means smoothing out your future roads to success.

  19. Was working in very bad enviroment for me with a boss that didn’t gave me any autonomy and expected me to follow his lead just because of his title. It all ended with a conflict. The regional leaders of the company (with 500 employees under them) took his side, all because of his title. But they made the mistake of trying to get rid of me by going after my intellect. I have avoided conflicts all my life, but when they went after my intellect I had no choose but to fight back. So it ended whit the headquarter (one of Swedens biggest bank) paying me lots of money to quit (the union said they had never made such a good deal for anyone before). And the best part is, although they all have there jobs still, they will all have big problems getting to higher positions in the Company (since I’ve proved them all to be dumb).

    • It both a strength and a weakness. We sometimes get lost in the details of trying to get everything right because of the big picture. Sometimes we have to go with the flow and realize we can’t plan everything. IE we are control freaks.

  20. I took this test back in high school and didn’t give it much attention since we were pretty much forced to take it. Remember I was an INTJ then; don’t know why those four letters stayed in my memory. I took it again a day ago not realizing what it was until I seen those same four letters from high school pop up in the results. This time I decided to dig deeper, now on a mission to read all I can find. This blog is the most detailed and informative thus far.

    I have to agree with 94% of the stuff listed under INTJ’s. The other 6% I disagree with is mostly due to the uniqueness of individual preferences and experiences that can alter certain traits. Think it goes without saying that just because we’re INTJ’s we aren’t going to be exact replicas. All people are unique to some degree.

    For example I prefer Introversion but can be rather extroverted and charming when I feel like it, especially when I’m motivated to set aside introversion to accomplish a goal that I deem important (my job, group projects, special gal, etc.). But I much rather prefer silence over senseless filler conversation if you have nothing worth saying.

    This is a bit random, but does anyone here get annoyed by “Reality” shows? With the baboons on it yelling and gossiping about things not even worth the recognition, just wondering.

    On another note, I seen someone bring up horoscopes; which crossed my mind as well. As I’m a Leo and horoscopes usually label us as head-honchos and the backbone of society; then I seen a couple Gemini’s challenging that theory.

    So I analyzed what exactly does a Leo Male and Female Gemini’s have in common, and turns out that we are highly compatible signs. And the other signs that compliment the Leo are all signs known for loyalty, harsh honesty, high-level confidence, etc. Traits also associated with the INTJ.

    I noticed a skeptic of horoscopes, which is understandable. I was a hardcore skeptic at first. As there are astrologist that abuse the use of generalities; mostly your mainstream websites. But I found a site about 5 years ago that used specifics (exact day and time you were born) to determine a detailed view of the TYPE of Zodiac you are. Ex.There are Leo’s that love the spotlight (extroverts) and others that do to a lesser degree –behind the scenes (introverts).

    What I’ve found is that the horoscope review I received then goes hand in hand with this INTJ review.

    Me (Leo) and two other family members (both Libras) read our horoscopes and they were super accurate down to the type of demeanor to more personal preferences. NO generalizations that could fit just anyone. I even checked to make sure my results were slightly unique to the other type of Leo’s born on different days and times.

    To add, both Libras in my family have very similar ways of thinking (with the heart over pure logic) while I’ve always been sort of the outcast in the sense that I function differently from the both of them, but yet I’m the one they look to when disaster strikes.

    They always take sides with each other and team up against me even when I’m clearly right. I even take the time to explain my logic which always seems to be a waste of my time. As they are fixated on proving me wrong with zero rationale, in the end the opposite is true. Because when I speak up it’s something I’m 100% certain is correct, not 99.999%, 100%. Making me look like a know it all. When really I just know which battles to fight.

    I’m not trying to change the belief of the doubters in the alignment of stars and planets; that would be nearly impossible as a fellow INTJ anyway. But maybe you can try to find a more low key horoscope site that actually puts effort into it –not those mainstream ‘one size fits all’ sites– that can challenge your belief. I’ve become less and less skeptical of the possibility.

    It would be interesting if everyone posted their zodiac signs to see if there’s a majority sign INTJ’s gravitate toward for women and men.

    • LMAO well it actual makes sense to INTJ to consider and understand every possible options. Thus Horoscopes….even though we are skeptics if its not factual….have to be considered if there is too much coincidence data. I mean heck if it sounds like a frog and acts like a frog…then maybe there are suggestions it may be a frog. I mean we can’t discount data no matter how crazy. TBH i find thought the INTJ label fits me better then the horoscope one.

      I can indeed be extremely extroverted if i want to and most people would say I am charming and the nicest person ever. Many think i a their best friend or want to be my close friend but TBH i just consider then friends. When you in my friendship “spotlight” you can feel special…but i treat all friends that sort of way…but once done….i move on. Too much emotional investment and i cultivate these friendships for..and it sounds bad.. as what i see for networking and um favors benefits for the future. It’s long term investment and planning to me.lol.

      This then leads me to answer your reality show question. I do kind of like them in the way of people watching but I personal either think it’s highly faked or staged (undercover boss now) or that the people and situations on there are so improbable or people so stupid, that i cannot believe they breed. I mean try watching Man vs. Wild, although interesting I personally think it’s laughable and he going to get somebody killed. I have not ever seen 1 episode of the Jersey shore or Kardashians. I refuse to. Amazing race though..love that, survivor when it was first on, yes. anything in Alaska, actually yes.

      That being said, autonomy with an end goal. Logic and efficiency above all else. Long-term planning but bluntness and an ability to get lost in details or annoyance with incompetence. Also stay out of the yahoo comments section, too many people ranting without factual data to back things up will always drive us nuts. Just learn to walk away and pick your battles. Even though you can blow them away with facts…it’s not fair and you’ll get nowhere arguing with an idiot.

      • Wow it’s amazing that there are actually people out there who think like me. Forever I thought I was an alien on this planet earth. LOL

        I too view relationships as long-term investments, haven’t touched an episode of Jersey Shore or Kardashians out of stubbornness, found Survivor a bit interesting when it was one of the first reality shows.

        I watch Undercover Boss –and yes can admit it’s a bit cheesy. But I’m a fanatic of all things business (and originality) is why I watch. And like to see the sheer joy of some of employees at the end. Speaking of Business T.V. Shows… Shark Tank, that’s my favorite!

        Guess I should’ve been more specific when I said “Reality” Shows I meant the ‘He said, She said’ kind; the Honey Boo-Boos, Kardashians, Jersey Shores, I Love Flavor Flaves of Reality T.V..

        Also know what you mean by that Yahoo comment section, I’ve learned that the hard way. But cut back significantly on bothering to even read the comment section over the past 4 or so years. Know how tempting it is to read something so stupid you feel almost responsible to educate them. But boy… isn’t that usually a waste of time. LOL

  21. I have been studying to be a high school teacher and I hate it! Thankfully I read this and applied for my Master’s so I can teach at university level AND do research. Cannot wait for this nightmare to be over and do something enjoyable!

    • Yes good for you. H.S. teaching will eventually drive you nuts with the inefficiency of the principals and teaching curriculum. At least in College you have some autonomy in how you structure your own course. Plus you do have the autonomy to both write and research subjects in your field. Also the pay and stress levels are way better.

  22. You want a cluster fuck try this…I’m a black male intj living in racist ass white america. Any doubts I HIGHLY recommend reading “birth of a white nation, by jacqueline battalora” Try explaining to the bank “yes, I really do have an 815 credit score.” Or to every racist cop “I didn’t rob that house…I actually own it.” Life on Earth feels like HELL to me, I have no one to relate to, you guys think being an INTJ is lonely, try being a black INTJ. I’m a systems thinker and this bullshit system is totally designed to marginalize and dehumanize a whole race. I study the bible for a glimpse of what heaven is like cuz this world is Shit. Wish I was born 700 years from now, by then the world will catch up to us. The design is flawed, the execution of it is Shit. Americans are the absolute worst. Humble ignorance is tolerable, ignorant arrogance is horrific. Try being black and debating quantum mechanics with white college professors and see where that gets you. I’m in a constant internal debate with myself as to if my life is a gift or a curse. Family doesn’t like me (jealous). Women love me, problem is I find most intolerable after 2 conversations. Why can’t people’s spirit be as beautiful as their exterior? Motivated as hell, I’ve designed an absolute plan to rule the world and a beautiful way to execute it…stay tuned. Hate facebook, twitter all that crap…why give away thoughts?? As precious and wonderful as an Idea is!! Really enjoy reading this blog…anybody else wish there was an entire city comprised only of INTJ’s you are the only people worth responding to. Also pay attention to Vladimir Putin of Russia, U.S. government underestimates him (as usual) he’s an INTJ. Sure hope Elon Musk (also INTJ) gets us to MARS. If he does I’m on the first rocket smokin’…Sorry for the rant just that this blog is a place where I think people will get me.

    Be Blessed,
    Troy

    • I don’t like Twitter or Facebook either; for personal use. Do people really think others care about that nasty looking homemade cuisine you made or what you’re doing with your kid, dog, cat, etc.? It’s also a breeding ground for people who have zero courage to be tough and say things they would be silent about in real world situations. Drama.

      It’s only beneficial to organizations, event planners, etc. to have active accounts on those platforms. The negatives far outweigh the benefits for the average user. Especially those who narrate their whole life and have nothing worth broadcasting. Maybe if you’re a celebrity that’s O.K.. But even that’s a stretch, because I personally don’t care what they’re doing; even those I find remotely fascinating.

      As for your racial topic it mostly matters which part of America you live in. The south seems to be stuck in some sort of broken timezone every time I go down there to visit family it feels like I’m not even on the same planet anymore. They’re always 10-20 years behind on everything from fashion to electronics. And segregated as hell.

      New York, L.A., and other diverse cities, racism seems almost non-existent. Of course you get your glimpse into reality every now and then that proves it still exist; mostly in those 40+ years old. But it’s not uncommon to see interracial platonic and romantic relationships while not having people make a big deal over it.

      There is and always will be racism not in just “White America” but all races. As long as ignorant people reproduce racism will exist. Maybe to a lesser degree the farther we get away from the civil rights era. But it’ll still be there because it’s in dull brains’ nature to make enemies of things they don’t understand.

      This isn’t a problem limited to America but the whole world (maybe even the universe). I can’t tell if we’re digressing or progressing at times. Maybe we’re just floating in the middle.

      Anyway, I’ve never had an actual romantic relationship since 6th grade (In my early 20′s now). You know, the stage before girls become hormonal train-wrecks. I’m no Hunchback of Notre Dame I get smiles here and there, and get the ‘he must be gay’ line when girls get their little egos hurt, when really I’m just not interested. I’m picky with women I realize no ones is perfect but I know what I want isn’t impossible.

      I don’t believe in the motto “something is better than nothing”. And do what I can to get the best. The women I find sexually attractive are simplistic and/or annoying. Women who I find mentally stimulating and enjoy their company I don’t find sexually attractive but can’t keep a friendly relationship with them because they want to ruin and make it awkward by trying to force a romance when I see them closer to a sister if anything.

      Lastly, America is on the brink of another stupid war either with North Korea or Russia or maybe both even though defenses have been weaken by the stupid Iraq war we had absolutely no reason to be in. It didn’t take Barack long to kill Bin Laden but Bush spent his whole two terms distracted trying to revive his father’s fight on oil. America needs to stop trying to be the U.N. and mind it’s own damn business. Seriously.

    • Troy it honestly depends where you live and screw those people who downplay you. Because in the end, your actions, jobs, life ultimately shows your accomplishments. Also mates….that is another story. We are too picky to the point of maybe never ….”settling”. We don’t settle on mates. Our mates must be intelligent but also simulate and excite us. Personally for me, I also want someone in great health as “what is the point if they die early on me”. That being said i have a lot of beautiful girl friends….because I’m not actually trying to sleep with them. I’m just not attracted to them in any way. To date just to date, is kind of pointless and when we date its for an end goal.

  23. I have to bring this up: I am an INTJ female who has also been diagnosed with Asperger’s. I am working on a hypothesis: 1. Asperger’s is neither Autism nor a developmental disorder, but a hostile interpretation of the INTJ personality by hyper judgmental and control freak types that gravitate toward careers in psychology. LOL And 2. Whether one is a “happy” or “distressed” INTJ depends on how the people who were your caretakers in early childhood reacted to a rare personality and the inevitable nonconforming behavior. My life as a female INTJ has been highly stressful, and I would say that most of the rejection/clashes with “normal” people has been due to being intelligent, rather than being anti-social. That is, those labeled Asperger’s may simply be INTJ’s, who due to bad experiences, have shifted to the extreme of INTJ solitary behavior.

    • Umm a disclaimer first…. i am a Psych major. That being said, i think our issue with normal people is that we have a hard time letting go that people may not be at our “level”. We have a hard time understand how slower people operate and can come off as both braggarts or know-it -all. It takes us time to learn how to slow it down and break things off into smaller bits. Some people aren’t able to see long-term contingencies like us. They just can’t. We need to realize everyone is a savant in their own way and with us we need to realize we can use the jigsaw of specializations to our own advantage. If that being “nice” and holding back our blunt opinions and assessments..so be it. We can do that to an extent and we need to pick our battles. We can be extremely self-destructive socially if we let ourselves be perceived as “better” or don’t hold our tongues at time. We have to learn to relax and sometimes go with the flow and let others fall flat. If not we can go all ” i should be running the world or the world is full of idiots so i should be in charge” type view. If we let our ego take a hold of us we become so focused on our “rightness” that we begin to lose our sight of openness and factual data that differing opinions may bring up. We lose our most important trait, our logic, and get caught up in proving ourselves right instead of the facts. That being said, i do believe your interpretation of Aspergers. I don’t understand how intense focus and finding efficiencies can be a disorder.That’s just me but it’s just the normal world’s rationalizing and classifying people who are brilliant in one area but deficient in the social one.

  24. I’m INTJ and while I like it in terms of my creativity and my strong sense of purpose and improvement… as a 31 year old female it is very difficult. I often find myself feeling pathetic like I will never make true friends in the city I live in now because I have such a hard time forming meaningful relationships. And even though I could “date” and make relationships there outside of regular friends, that seems so tedious and conflicts so much with my goals of entrepreneurship right now that I just keep putting it off then feeling alone and pathetic all over again when I am sitting alone at home on the weekends…

  25. Due to financial instability, and employment instability my life is in shambles. Most people don’t understand me and that causes more stress. I have taken care of my entire family since age 6 due to one parent being ill due to epilepsy and the other sufferers from alcoholism. As a result of my heavy responsibilities, I’ve never had the chance to prosper in the way I would have if the circumstances were different.HHowever, my circumstances does not stop my mind nor my personal opinion about myself regardless of how others view me. I am searching for some stress management, if you have any suggestions ?

  26. Female INTJ here. I did not realize we were so rare. Any other women have a hard time finding women friends? I have one true female friend who I’ve had for the last 11 years. Other girls tend to annoy me beyond belief. I normally can only handle the relationship for a few years before their personalities drive me insane! I feel like I have to fake interest and enthusiasm in order to be accepted. Surely, I am not the only one? Have you ever been to a social gathering and you end up with all the women? You just sit there and listen to the conversations, but cannot say what you want because you know you will offend? It drives me nuts!! It feels so fake like you can never be your true self.

    • Yes Stephanie, I too have had a difficult time finding female friends. I have never met another female INTJ but my best friend is an ENTJ. My sister is an ESFP and enjoys seeing how long she can annoy me before I have to exit the room and lock myself in another. My School seems to be filled with ENFPs who all ask me for advice very often. Unfortunately they ask me for help with their emotional problems too often, my usual response is: “be logical about it, if you need to make a chart listing the pros and cons of your options, then come to me if you still haven’t made your decision. the conversations i have with these people tend to be 95% content free and are just the same 36 letters strung together in a meaningless pattern. I pretend to be enjoying myself until the end of the The only time I have some interesting conversation is when I get home and FaceTime my ENTJ friend (she lives in a different state). This friend is my vent, where I can be myself and she can be herself. Although she is an extravert she still needs someone who she can vent to without having what she says being spread. I recommend you talk and vent to the friend you have been close with for eleven years. I have found it to be a good way to de-stress, especially after after a party so you can tell her your witty comments. Maybe she will even get a kick out of it.

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